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mccain: mr. president, i intend to object, along with the senator from oklahoma, and i think he made the case. i would remind my colleagues that a week ago, senator coburn and i sent a letter to senator reid and senator mcconnell, with copies to senator mikulski and senator shelby, and we stated in one sentence, "we write to inform you of our intention to object to entering into a time agreement for floor consideration of a continuing resolution until we've had at least 72 hours to review its contents." that's -- that's what we wrote. that's what we asked for. and i would remind my colleagues again, it's a 597-page bill of over a trillion dollars that we got at 9:00 last night. is there anyone who has had time to read this entire bill of 597 pages long? and we're talking about a trillion dollars? a trillion dollars and we are holding up the united states senate over not having since 9:00 last night until 3:30 this afternoon to examine a 587-page bill, over a trillion dollars. now, and what i've a
mccain: mr. president, i intend to object, along with the senator from oklahoma, and i think he made the case. i would remind my colleagues that a week ago, senator coburn and i sent a letter to senator reid and senator mcconnell, with copies to senator mikulski and senator shelby, and we stated in one sentence, "we write to inform you of our intention to object to entering into a time agreement for floor consideration of a continuing resolution until we've had at least 72 hours to review...
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the leadership, senator reid, senator mcconnell, i'm sure are working on that with senator mccain and -- and senator coburn. but if we could get started on this tomorrow and have a healthy debate, because there's some issues that ought to be brought up. but i want to take just a few minutes and -- and review just a few of the outlines of what we've -- we hope to accomplish this week and what's in this bill and what's not. what this would do, madam president, it would allow agencies additional ability to address priorities in light of the sequester cuts. you know, we all know that they were draconian. good policy, as i said, bad process. this proposed legislation that the senator from maryland and i are bringing to the senate hopefully is in full compliance with the spending caps required by the budget control act and it brings -- with the sequester, it brings the total to under $1 trillion. we're doing some serious cutting. we ought to do it wisely in what we do. what it has in here, both sides have given in to get to where we are. no funding, no new funding for the health care, the o
the leadership, senator reid, senator mcconnell, i'm sure are working on that with senator mccain and -- and senator coburn. but if we could get started on this tomorrow and have a healthy debate, because there's some issues that ought to be brought up. but i want to take just a few minutes and -- and review just a few of the outlines of what we've -- we hope to accomplish this week and what's in this bill and what's not. what this would do, madam president, it would allow agencies additional...
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mccain: mr. president, i come to the floor to talk about amendment number 33, which would strike sections 104 and 8039 of the bill. it's a pair of guam earmarks that directly contravene the explicit direction provided by the armed services committee of the senate and the house of representatives in the conference report on the fiscal year 2013 national defense authorization act. congress has not yet received a sufficient cost analysis of the proposed movement of the troops from okinawa to guam, and because of that and the whole operation of these troops from okinawa to guam has still not been decided, the armed services committees of the house and senate explicitly prohibited this type of premature investments in civilian infrastructure. at a time when the department of defense is facing the impact of sequestration, on top of the $487 million in cuts directed by the president, it's appalling. it's appalling and disgraceful. that the authorizing language would be directly circumvented by the autho
mccain: mr. president, i come to the floor to talk about amendment number 33, which would strike sections 104 and 8039 of the bill. it's a pair of guam earmarks that directly contravene the explicit direction provided by the armed services committee of the senate and the house of representatives in the conference report on the fiscal year 2013 national defense authorization act. congress has not yet received a sufficient cost analysis of the proposed movement of the troops from okinawa to guam,...
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for debate on the mccain amendment be equally divided between snores mccain and -- senators mccain and myself oregon designees and that at 5:30, the senate proceed to a vote in relation to the mccain amendment, there be no amendments in order to the amendment prior to the vote. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin: mr. president, i want to -- i don't know if senator mccain is near is by, but if he is, i want to give him a chance to come over and use the uminutes remaining before the -- the few minutes remaining before the roll call vote. but for those members of the senate who did not listen to the earlier statements by senator mccain and myself, this amendment is very basic and very straightforward. senator mcquey mccain would cutr eliminate the ability of the department of defense to give grants to three organizations -- fisher house, red corks and u.s.o. fisher house is the ronald mcdonald house of veterans hospitals. i visited the one in chicago, talked to my colleagues about other fibber house facilities around america. they are remarkable and amazing places. fishe
for debate on the mccain amendment be equally divided between snores mccain and -- senators mccain and myself oregon designees and that at 5:30, the senate proceed to a vote in relation to the mccain amendment, there be no amendments in order to the amendment prior to the vote. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin: mr. president, i want to -- i don't know if senator mccain is near is by, but if he is, i want to give him a chance to come over and use the uminutes remaining before...
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mccain: mr. president, could we continue the dialogue? the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, i want to thank the majority leader before he leaves the floor, and i look forward toempt as and debate. and, again, i apologize to all my colleagues if we held up this legislation, but we did want time to examine this legislation as we had previously requested. i thank my colleagues, i look forward to moving forward with amendments. the senator from oklahoma and i are prepared with amendments whenever they are in order. and i thank my friend from illinois, and i appreciate the enormous responsibility he has in his new position. i thank the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: thank my colleague from arizona as well. and i think we have a rare moment of peacemaking and harmony in the senate, and it may not last for long, so i want to speak while we have that moment. and just say for the record, i don't dispute any of the statements made by the senator from arizona, nor do i qu
mccain: mr. president, could we continue the dialogue? the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, i want to thank the majority leader before he leaves the floor, and i look forward toempt as and debate. and, again, i apologize to all my colleagues if we held up this legislation, but we did want time to examine this legislation as we had previously requested. i thank my colleagues, i look forward to moving forward with amendments. the senator from oklahoma and i are...
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mccain: move to lay on the table. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. brown: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from ohio. mr. brown: i ask unanimous consent to speak up to two minutes and after my remarks the senior senator from arizona be recognized. the presiding officer: is there objection? is there objection to the modified request? without objection. mr. brown: madam president, thank you. i want to not yet call up, i've been working with chairwoman mikulski on this until they get an agreement but i'll just discuss for a moment amendment 83 i'm cosponsoring with senator isakson of georgia. it really does help us restore as chairmanwoman mikulski has been working towards, regular order in this chamber. this is an amendment having to do with some chang dealing -- language dealing with a private project and customs and privatization that senator landrieu has supported. i've spoken with senator landrieu about this issue. we need to talk through some other things but if we're going to do regular order the way we need to this language sh
mccain: move to lay on the table. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. brown: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from ohio. mr. brown: i ask unanimous consent to speak up to two minutes and after my remarks the senior senator from arizona be recognized. the presiding officer: is there objection? is there objection to the modified request? without objection. mr. brown: madam president, thank you. i want to not yet call up, i've been working with chairwoman mikulski on...
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i thank very much senator menendez, rubio, leahy, mccai mccain. remember, two and two, two democrats, two republicans, i appreciate the work they've done, but we haven't been able to merge these different approaches to get something done. we behind the scenes around here, just because you don't see a lot of talking going on here doesn't mean there isn't a lot of work going on. there have been numerous discussions about how to get to the amendments and to the shape that they could be voted on. mr. president, we can't even -- we can't even get senators to agree that we should have votes on amendments until "i want mine, if he gets his, i want mine." so we've had difficulty on both sides to agree on a path forward. now, the speaker has been pretty clear. he said, unless we get a bill that doesn't have a lot of junk in it -- and i'm paraphrasing what he said but to get point -- he said he's going to strike everything and sent us back a straight c.r. he's said that publicly, not privately. so we need to move forward cautiously but quickly. we have next
i thank very much senator menendez, rubio, leahy, mccai mccain. remember, two and two, two democrats, two republicans, i appreciate the work they've done, but we haven't been able to merge these different approaches to get something done. we behind the scenes around here, just because you don't see a lot of talking going on here doesn't mean there isn't a lot of work going on. there have been numerous discussions about how to get to the amendments and to the shape that they could be voted on....
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we thank you, senator mccain. mr. mccain: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. mccain: i'm very grateful for the kind words and sentiments expressed by my leader, senator mcconnell, and i appreciate very much his kind remarks. and on this anniversary day, i still think that the greatest honor of my life was the privilege of serving in the company of heroes who inspired all of us to things that otherwise we may not have been capable of. it's been a great honor for me to serve with senator mcconnell as my leader in the senate, and i appreciate on this particular day his very kind sentiments. i yield. ms. mikulski: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from maryland. ms. mikulski: what a wonderful time. i'm proud to serve with you, senator mccain. it's -- you know, america has so few heroes. america needs all the heroes that we can get, and people that could identify -- not come mick book figures in weird costumes, but men and women who put themselves in harm's way or do daring and dashing things fo
we thank you, senator mccain. mr. mccain: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. mccain: i'm very grateful for the kind words and sentiments expressed by my leader, senator mcconnell, and i appreciate very much his kind remarks. and on this anniversary day, i still think that the greatest honor of my life was the privilege of serving in the company of heroes who inspired all of us to things that otherwise we may not have been capable of. it's been a great honor...
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mitt romney received what, about 1 million more votes than john mccain. it was commonly said and reported that he received fewer popular votes than mccain. that's because of the delay in the california and some of the other west coast states in reporting their results, that when the numbers finally came in, he did. obama clearly benefited from a superior microtargeting and turnout effort where building on what the bush campaign had done in '04, and then the substantial advances that the obama campaign made on that in a weight and working through the four year period, 2012 they used consumer preferences and things of that nature to identify both strong and wavering obama voters. and then they use personal contact to get in touch with them, cured with a message, geared towards the voters propensity. it was a sophisticated effort. obviously, republicans need to make substantial advances over their procedures in 2012, if they hope to win in a close election. you can see the results in the 12 target states, most of which have turned out increasing even though
mitt romney received what, about 1 million more votes than john mccain. it was commonly said and reported that he received fewer popular votes than mccain. that's because of the delay in the california and some of the other west coast states in reporting their results, that when the numbers finally came in, he did. obama clearly benefited from a superior microtargeting and turnout effort where building on what the bush campaign had done in '04, and then the substantial advances that the obama...
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but if you recall the senate, just to be sure, passed a resolution saying that john mccain could affect service president because he was born in the panic -- panama canal zone which technically is not part of the states territory. the senate passed a resolution saying yes, he can. that has to be the court someday will have to rule on the. i'm pretty sure, confident, an attorney speed i have not given an opinion. >> i understand. and no one here would -- let me just say that my exploratory committee are coming together in the next half-hour. >> the likely explanation for visiting article ii, section one, a natural born citizen and 35 years of age was so that we would not invite your appeal royalty to come pashtun european royalty to come and be i could. number one, had to be 35, so wouldn't be an infant with the governor. and number two, born in the united states. that's the probable recent. >> we will get back to that issue. but let me start our questions. we talk a little bit about the financial side and, obviously, that's what our committee does is appropriate money for the various ag
but if you recall the senate, just to be sure, passed a resolution saying that john mccain could affect service president because he was born in the panic -- panama canal zone which technically is not part of the states territory. the senate passed a resolution saying yes, he can. that has to be the court someday will have to rule on the. i'm pretty sure, confident, an attorney speed i have not given an opinion. >> i understand. and no one here would -- let me just say that my exploratory...
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john mccain is very, very aggressive on this issue. and so part of that, and there are many more parts to it, but part of that is to say that we're going to stop any new developments, when we get to a certain point early in this development of a weapons system and leave it there. it may be only 90% as good but it will be half the cost. another thing that we've done there is we've, we put in many more stop points in the cycle in terms of cost to try to keep these costs in line. and there's a number of other things that we have put in place. with the f-35 the manager of that program was let go. was removed from that program. and, the cost issue, we have slowed down the production of the plane so that we don't fly before we buy. we're doing less of that. there was much too much of that, what is called concurrency. we've reduced the possibility of concurrency, flying before we actually go into the full-rate production of weapons systems. but it's, it's major problem. if you ask, who pays for it? the american taxpayers pay for it obviously.
john mccain is very, very aggressive on this issue. and so part of that, and there are many more parts to it, but part of that is to say that we're going to stop any new developments, when we get to a certain point early in this development of a weapons system and leave it there. it may be only 90% as good but it will be half the cost. another thing that we've done there is we've, we put in many more stop points in the cycle in terms of cost to try to keep these costs in line. and there's a...
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and netanyahu knows obama is interventionist like john mccain. each one comes to the meeting with more sober expectations. that could be a good thing i think but i would say that from the israel side, my sense is, here i thought i would lay out how i saw that conversation and then lay out some of the other key points, syria, lebanon and of course the palestinian issue. on the iran issue, i think it is clear that the netanyahu people go in believing, what does khomeni take away when they hear certain weaponry due to sequester has been moved off the gulf? or that diplomacy has been, in their view, indecisive how do they relate to that? and so there is the red line that dennis mentioned and the iaea report, you know, that israelis said look there was 180 kilograms of 20% uranium. now they are down to 168. he will say, netanyahu is vindicated. red lines work. i told you so, mr. president. netanyahu, obama will say maybe we have more time. if obama is diverting that means we're not on the brink. but netanyahu will probably come back with the p-2 centr
and netanyahu knows obama is interventionist like john mccain. each one comes to the meeting with more sober expectations. that could be a good thing i think but i would say that from the israel side, my sense is, here i thought i would lay out how i saw that conversation and then lay out some of the other key points, syria, lebanon and of course the palestinian issue. on the iran issue, i think it is clear that the netanyahu people go in believing, what does khomeni take away when they hear...
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you know, on wednesday, senator mccain brought forth an amendment, and the amendment was last wednesday, so almost a week ago, he brought forth an amendment to strike other unauthorized funds from the continuing resolution and to leave those funds for the military to use for priority items and for things that our men and women in uniform actually needed. and you know what happened? there was a motion to table brought against senator mccain's amendment, and essentially what he was trying to do was what i am trying to do today, to stop money that's been -- not been authorized, to stop spending money when our men and women in uniform need us to give -- allow them to use these resources for the basic needs that they have, and that's why he brought this amendment to the floor, and you know what happened? there was a motion to table filed against his amendment, and i think there was a real shock on the floor from both sides of the aisle because on a bipartisan basis, that motion to table failed, because both sides of the aisle realized that when we're facing sequestration, when we are facing
you know, on wednesday, senator mccain brought forth an amendment, and the amendment was last wednesday, so almost a week ago, he brought forth an amendment to strike other unauthorized funds from the continuing resolution and to leave those funds for the military to use for priority items and for things that our men and women in uniform actually needed. and you know what happened? there was a motion to table brought against senator mccain's amendment, and essentially what he was trying to do...
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i'm delighted to be part of his levin-mccain-whitehouse group putting this together. if you boil down the discussions that we're having back and forth about the budget, they boil down to a very simple question and that is: can we use the money that is in tax avoidance, in tax loopholes towards solving our sequester problem, our deficit problem, and our debt problem? now, the way this has been described so far is that there is spending cuts -- that's one part of the equation -- and the other part is tax increases. that's been the way this has been framed. that overlooks the third big piece of the problem which is money that goes out the back door of the tax code without ever coming into the united states government in revenues. and i want to let people who are watching know, because they probably won't believe it, what a big number that is, what a colossal number that is. we get a trillion dollars, $1.09 trillion, to be specific, in revenue out of the individual tax code. we get $181 billion in revenue out of the corporate tax code. we give away $1.02 trillion out the
i'm delighted to be part of his levin-mccain-whitehouse group putting this together. if you boil down the discussions that we're having back and forth about the budget, they boil down to a very simple question and that is: can we use the money that is in tax avoidance, in tax loopholes towards solving our sequester problem, our deficit problem, and our debt problem? now, the way this has been described so far is that there is spending cuts -- that's one part of the equation -- and the other...
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are you calling on senators and meeting with them and john mccain and jeff flake. can you talk about what they're doing? >> i would prefer not to. i think they deserve space to conduct their discussions with some semblance of confidentiality until they are ready to announce whatever agreement they have. i think at some point the process will get filled out but i prefer not to speak to that right now. >> mr. naylor? >> you talked about long lines and customs entry and checkpoints and i'm just wondering, realized the program program -- what are you seeing so far with substantial delays for travel? >> if you look at for example miami airport and laredo as a land port we had pretty long lines last weekend. at the airport a three-hour line we are going to not take the budget we have. part of that was just trying to manage within the cr we are operating under and with the uncertainty of what was ultimately going to be done to dhs when they look at our budget. now that we have a budget we can go back and look and go through everything we can to mitigate wide. unfortunatel
are you calling on senators and meeting with them and john mccain and jeff flake. can you talk about what they're doing? >> i would prefer not to. i think they deserve space to conduct their discussions with some semblance of confidentiality until they are ready to announce whatever agreement they have. i think at some point the process will get filled out but i prefer not to speak to that right now. >> mr. naylor? >> you talked about long lines and customs entry and...
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the fact that when the congressional border side isn't led by senator mccain, and others, who have been part of the negotiations process. and what are the implications for getting, for these discussions, that site visit for getting a bill that it is fairly quickly and the time for the process over all. so that they respond in english and then i will see if i can do in spanish. but look, we believe that there is been very good progress. i know a lot of that has been behind the scenes, but we have seen a lot of the bipartisan negotiations continue. and we understand that they are very close to introducing a bill that would then be considered in the committees within the months of april and may, and that we will see for consideration by june. i know that there are a lot of people are very anxious, including all of us, to actually see that bill introduced. but we've seen commitments in a very bipartisan way, as many of you know you're these discussions have been led by both republicans and democrats, including senators mccain, senators rubio, senators schumer, senator menendez, then it, dur
the fact that when the congressional border side isn't led by senator mccain, and others, who have been part of the negotiations process. and what are the implications for getting, for these discussions, that site visit for getting a bill that it is fairly quickly and the time for the process over all. so that they respond in english and then i will see if i can do in spanish. but look, we believe that there is been very good progress. i know a lot of that has been behind the scenes, but we...
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they thought like with mccain in the 90s with the battle between clinton and the house republicans, they thought that they could portray the republicans is not being willing to compromise. they looked at house republicans approval ratings which works jane lowen thought that they could win the fight out right. then we are seeing a lot more nuanced support for balancing the budget and for spending cuts. there is a lot of mistrust of washington in general and a lot of voters were reacting to the budgetary fight, the sequestration fight with the notion that both parties are to blame. and that is not good for the white house. when both parties are to blame you end up, the president entered his re-election had strong approval ratings. he took a hit and lost seven or eight points in the re-election in most national polls. you see a lot of these big protracted budget because the white house knows issues more favorable to them perhaps immigration it's a legislative priority that they want to fight for. >> host: you call it a short-term political victory but at the same time he said it benefited t
they thought like with mccain in the 90s with the battle between clinton and the house republicans, they thought that they could portray the republicans is not being willing to compromise. they looked at house republicans approval ratings which works jane lowen thought that they could win the fight out right. then we are seeing a lot more nuanced support for balancing the budget and for spending cuts. there is a lot of mistrust of washington in general and a lot of voters were reacting to the...
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of the debate and everybody in this room should feel good about this gentleman being in between john mccain and chuck schumer trying to get a deal, trying to get a deal done. with trumka off to the side. anyway, you are working up with these people and i think a lot of right minded people want to see this happen, including you. but immigration, solving that problem, and addressing some of the educational shortfalls we have in this country will probably have more to do with the long-term competitiveness of the united states manufacturing than anything else. so keep those efforts going. tim, keep paying dues. keep supporting this guy. >> think big, tim. [laughter] let's talk a little bit about, so you manufacture these great products, and more and more with the help of the ex-im bank and others, exporting them around the world, which is not only exporting products but it's exporting u.s. engagement and influence and so on. let me ask you a couple of questions about that. number one, we've got a three-year extension on the ex-im bank. you know, there were so many people that really don't under
of the debate and everybody in this room should feel good about this gentleman being in between john mccain and chuck schumer trying to get a deal, trying to get a deal done. with trumka off to the side. anyway, you are working up with these people and i think a lot of right minded people want to see this happen, including you. but immigration, solving that problem, and addressing some of the educational shortfalls we have in this country will probably have more to do with the long-term...
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the headline is mccain it's a tv show, the daughter of senator john mccain. we go to michigan next, to hear from glen. >> i would like to say a couple things about professor hall's appearance of politicians and that kind of thing. one is i guess it means the clich the caller showed this more seriously though, i kind of disagree. i really don't care what any of these people look like. i feel that this kind of underestimating the audience. i think it is really a big problem. that's where you get a lot of this nonsense because the power that the elite or whenever clich you want to use, they don't think people want serious news. it did put out serious news on a regular basis by and large most people but if they thought it would have a direct impact on their life and that kind of thing, but the crime and the standard of living and that kind of stuff on a consistent basis. >> where do you get your daily news from? >> pretty much anywhere i can get it, newspaper, television, whatever is available at the moment. >> host: we will let you go there and hear from
the headline is mccain it's a tv show, the daughter of senator john mccain. we go to michigan next, to hear from glen. >> i would like to say a couple things about professor hall's appearance of politicians and that kind of thing. one is i guess it means the clich the caller showed this more seriously though, i kind of disagree. i really don't care what any of these people look like. i feel that this kind of underestimating the audience. i think it is really a big problem. that's where...
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/israel policy conference known as aipac with remarks by vice president widen, senator john mccain and benjamin netanyahu. after that we'll join a discussion on the e.u.'s political and economic future and what it means for the u.s. and later the nat returns at 2 -- the senate returns followed later with votes on two judicial nominations to the u.s. district court. >> now, two former u.s. solicitors general give an overview of some of the cases this term. we'll hear from theodore olson and walter dellinger who was acting solicitor general for president clinton. they spoke at the national association of attorneys general winter meeting in washington d.c. this is a little over an hour. >> it is a tremendous honor to be here. >> [inaudible] >> mic on? >> let me try that again. it is a tremendous honor to be here once again with walter delling general and ted olson, two of the real leading lights of the supreme court bar. they've become good friends of us, and i think they only need very brief introductions before we get going into what the supreme court's been up to. walter dellinger is a
/israel policy conference known as aipac with remarks by vice president widen, senator john mccain and benjamin netanyahu. after that we'll join a discussion on the e.u.'s political and economic future and what it means for the u.s. and later the nat returns at 2 -- the senate returns followed later with votes on two judicial nominations to the u.s. district court. >> now, two former u.s. solicitors general give an overview of some of the cases this term. we'll hear from theodore olson...
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mccain: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that further proceedings under the quorum call be suspended, and i be allowed to speak to the senate as if in morning business. the presiding officer: the senator from arizona, without objection. cane cannes thank the president. -- mr. mccain: thank the president. came to speak about a resolution that i've introduced that calls on the president of the united states pos posthumously par done worlafrican-american catch on. i'm proud to be joined by harass rye reid and the senator from mass marks senator cowan. i would point out that the majority leader of the senate was once an excellent fighter himself, a great skill and agility which he continues to display here as majority leader of the united states senate. i'd also like to thank him for his commitment to the sport of boxing and for joining me again in attempting to do justice to a man that was done a great injustice. for my colleagues who may no not familiar with the story of the late-jack johnson
mccain: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that further proceedings under the quorum call be suspended, and i be allowed to speak to the senate as if in morning business. the presiding officer: the senator from arizona, without objection. cane cannes thank the president. -- mr. mccain: thank the president. came to speak about a resolution that i've introduced that calls on the president of the united states pos posthumously par done worlafrican-american catch on. i'm proud to be joined by...
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mccain: an imminent threat. we may have to do a little better job of defining that, but say imminent threat, would then translate into killing somebody in a cafe is -- is not a mature debate or discussion. mr. graham: if i could add, let me tell you about imminent threat in military law. in iraq, you had disabled terrorists, insurgents, and there was a big debate in the marine corps because under military law when a lawful combatant, a person in uniform, has been disabled, and it doesn't present an imminent threat, you don't have the ability to shoot them. okay. the terrorists in iraq put i.e.d.'s on wounded belligerents, unlawful enemy combatants so the marine corps wrestled very long and hard with the rules of engagement. if you saw somebody, come upon somebody who was wounded who apparently was disabled, under what circumstances could you use lethal force because they may be booby-trapped? to the marine corps' credit, they came up with a balance between who we are, we just don't shoot even our enemies who are
mccain: an imminent threat. we may have to do a little better job of defining that, but say imminent threat, would then translate into killing somebody in a cafe is -- is not a mature debate or discussion. mr. graham: if i could add, let me tell you about imminent threat in military law. in iraq, you had disabled terrorists, insurgents, and there was a big debate in the marine corps because under military law when a lawful combatant, a person in uniform, has been disabled, and it doesn't...
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mccain: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent to address the senate as if in morning business, and i ask unanimous consent that i be joined in the colloquy with the senator from south carolina, senator graham. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. mccain: well, thank you, mr. president. i'd like to quote from this this morning's editorial from the "wall street journal" entitled "rand paul's drone rant." and i'd like to read for the edification of my colleagues the editorial that was in the walker this morning. a credible media outlet. "the wall street journal" reads -- quote -- "give rand paul credit for theatrical timing, as a snow storm descended on washington, the filibuster filled the attention void on twitter and cable tv. if only his reasoning matched the showmanship. shortly before noon, senator paul began a talking filibuster against john brennan's nomination to leaded c.i.a. the tactic is rarely used in the senate and was last seen in 2010. but senator paul said an a
mccain: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent to address the senate as if in morning business, and i ask unanimous consent that i be joined in the colloquy with the senator from south carolina, senator graham. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. mccain: well, thank you, mr. president. i'd like to quote from this this morning's editorial from the "wall street journal" entitled "rand paul's drone rant." and i'd like to read for the edification of my...
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i think john mccain, you know, aptly spoke to that but the real question about the drone policy that a lot of people have, is there a better way to go after these guys in places like yemen, somalia, the border areas of pakistan? you know, drones have caused civilian casualtis. there's a lot of political blow back in these countries. they're not happy about it. and we're dealing with governments that haven't been transparent with their own people about what they're doing. that is part of the problem where you have in pakistan a military that on the one hand is privately telling the u.s., go ahead, drone these guys. then publicly in their own press they're saying, we don't know anything about this. this is terrible. we don't want this happening . . and if the government makes the determination of whether they think they are safe to release into the open or whether they negotiate with their home countries to incarcerate them there. now the scary thing that has happened, particularly in yemen and saudi arabia, you have these former guantanamo detainee is that have been sent back to those
i think john mccain, you know, aptly spoke to that but the real question about the drone policy that a lot of people have, is there a better way to go after these guys in places like yemen, somalia, the border areas of pakistan? you know, drones have caused civilian casualtis. there's a lot of political blow back in these countries. they're not happy about it. and we're dealing with governments that haven't been transparent with their own people about what they're doing. that is part of the...